In this conversation, we touched upon the multiple divides of our current system. What is breaking in our current way of operating, and my optimistic view of believing in the inner wisdom of people, and that we’re able to co-create the future we want to live in.

What we haven’t touched upon, is what needs to happen to support systematic shifts. As OD practitioners, both Martin and I are seeking effective and efficient ways to experiment. Since we’re dealing with a fundamentally new challenge, there is not really past references to find a “silver bullet”. So perhaps in the next conversations, we will talk about what we learnt along our journey.